Horn switch R1100s

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Postby Bikerhoss » Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:11 pm

As a relative newbie to the 'right for right', 'left for left' switchgear, I've got to come to it's defense here, I'm getting on fine with it, I find it perfectly natural to indicate this way,
If you're struggling to find the horn, can I tentatively suggest that maybe you're using it as a rebuke (maybe trying to find it in a rush) and not as a warning as it's intended :?:
I've only used my horn twice since I got the bike last year, 1st time to warn a driver who wandered into my lane I was there, and the 2nd for the MOT test!

r550s mentiond hand signals, I use then pretty frequently, I find drivers react brilliantly as they see them so rarely, Especially a 'thank you' :)
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Postby el-nicko » Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:14 pm

nab 301 wrote:For years I was hitting the l/h ind switch instead of the horn so in the end I transferred the micro switches within the housing from top to bottom and vice versa . There was just enough room without modifying the wiring to do this .
Obviously the external "levers" are marked incorrectly now, but I haven't looked down since...


Hi Nab, could you explain in a bit more detail just how you did it please.
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Postby nab 301 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:15 pm

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Hi Nab, could you explain in a bit more detail just how you did it please.


I went out to take photos and i'd forgotten i'd fitted muffs :shock: , so pics might take a little longer if needed..
There's one or maybe 2 countersunk screws which give access to the switch housing , it'll be fairly self explanatory if you look closely, i can't remember exactly. Once you've gained access you'll see the micro switches which are actuated by the big external levers.
The switches just "sit" in their locations so it's just a matter of reversing their locations top to bottom and bottom switch to top , the only restriction is the wiring , but it was/is possible on mine.
I have probs with the R/h switch gear at the moment but it might be the w/end before i look , I'll probably do photos of the L/H then as well.
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Postby el-nicko » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:42 pm

nab 301 wrote:
el-nicko wrote:
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Hi Nab, could you explain in a bit more detail just how you did it please.


The switches just "sit" in their locations so it's just a matter of reversing their locations top to bottom and bottom switch to top , the only restriction is the wiring , but it was/is possible on mine.
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O K Nab. I'm probably being a bit dull :oops: here, but don't I need to physicaly swop the two parts/strands of the wiring loom over. As in; from the left h/bar to the right h/bar for the horn and vicky-vercky for the cancelation switch? :?
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Postby dave the german » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:06 pm

Nick, I think he just swopped the horn and left hand indicator switch around
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Postby el-nicko » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:10 pm

dave the german wrote:Nick, I think he just swopped the horn and left hand indicator switch around

Ah yes Dave. :idea: Nabs post makes sense now. :wink: I don't know if I could live with that. :?
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Postby nab 301 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:45 pm

el-nicko wrote:
dave the german wrote:Nick, I think he just swopped the horn and left hand indicator switch around

Ah yes Dave. :idea: Nabs post makes sense now. :wink: I don't know if I could live with that. :?


That's it ! what had you in mind ....?
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Postby el-nicko » Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:47 pm

nab 301 wrote:
el-nicko wrote:
dave the german wrote:Nick, I think he just swopped the horn and left hand indicator switch around

Ah yes Dave. :idea: Nabs post makes sense now. :wink: I don't know if I could live with that. :?


That's it ! what had you in mind ....?



Well I've thought about using the cancelling button as the horn button and the horn button for cancel. My reasoning is that on the left side you've got head/dip-horn-left indicator (esentialy four switch position options) so on the odd occasion when I need to find the horn button I'm going, "er...., which one is it now?" Where-as on the right you've only got the one indicator button and ergonomically it makes more sense to have the horn there because you're 'mind' knows instintivly (I hope) not to make that slightly extra stretch when it tells your thumb to hit a button. Thing is, with all the other buttons there's (with the possible exception of the 'dip') time to consider your action. But when you need the horn you usualy need it to be a 'reflex' action. Mind you, I'm left-handed so you would'nt have thort it was a problem in the first place but it is. :lol:
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Postby el-nicko » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:43 pm

After further consideration I've decided too take nabs route. Only problem is: How do I get the switches apart? :? I've removed two screws but they refuse to seperate. :( HELP! please.
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Postby nab 301 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:01 am

What year is your bike ? I did work on my bike at the weekend but didn't bother with the photos ... There's one countersunk screw underneath and one visible to the rear of the housing , then there's two small torx scews iside the housing when you split it.
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Postby el-nicko » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:05 am

'02. Yes, I removed the two c/sunk screws but when it did'nt come apart I didn't force it 'cos I thought I may have missed something. Having thort about this 'mod' Nigel, I like it and may do it on both sides so that the indicator button on the right becomes the 'cancel' button.
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Postby nab 301 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:24 pm

Unless the '02 switchgear is different? I may have time tomorrow to do pics...
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Postby nab 301 » Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:31 pm

I had a look at my switch gear today just to refresh my memory :oops: . I removed the screws and it pulled apart with a bit of fiddling , lower section first.
I found it more diffficult than I remember , and I wasted lots of time getting it all back together , I hope your ears were burning!
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2small torx screws to remove inside the assy.
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Remove the levers
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Swop the switches top to bottom
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Postby el-nicko » Mon Feb 25, 2013 12:29 am

nab 301 wrote:I had a look at my switch gear today just to refresh my memory :oops: . I removed the screws and it pulled apart with a bit of fiddling , lower section first.
I found it more diffficult than I remember , and I wasted lots of time getting it all back together , I hope your ears were burning!


Thanks for that Nigel. I don't know why mine won't seperate. I've removed the two screws on both left and right bars. perhaps they need just a little bit more 'persuasion'. BTW, thanks for the burning ears. :wink: I was out on me bike for a couple of hours today and they kept the rest of my head lovely and warm. :lol:
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Postby nab 301 » Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:16 pm

el-nicko wrote:
nab 301 wrote:


BTW, thanks for the burning ears. :wink: I was out on me bike for a couple of hours today and they kept the rest of my head lovely and warm. :lol:

At least one of us was warm yesterday.... :lol:
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