Long time 1150GS rider gets an 1100S
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:27 am
So, whats it like Mister?
Been riding an 1150GS since April 2005 and have no recoolection of riding anything else since. I did sit on an Royal Enfield thing at a trade stand at Phillip Island last year, but that is all.
I picked up my 1100S a week ago and first ride was about 100km / 60miles to friends in Brisbane. On the Monday and Tuesday I rode home to FNQ, Far North Queensland. You can read about it here if you like.
viewtopic.php?f=17&p=188401#p188401
The riding position is quite different. As expected I suppose considering that these two are at quite opposite ends of the spectrum. One is a long-range tourer good for off road to an extent. The other is BMW’s take on a sports bike. It will be ok on some dirt roads, but not for long!
I would say to my uncalibrated eye and feeling, it is about 20% faster than my GS, though the GS does need a good service. Where does this extra oomph come from?
Overall the 11S is more slippery, less frontal drag than the GS. I believe that mine has the standard gearbox for the 11S and I know my GS does. Gears 1 thru 5 are the same but the final drive is different, 31:11 for the GS and 33:12 for the 11S. This certainly gives it more get up go. 6th gear is different and so this gives it a higher top speed, not that I have been there officer.
Approaching 4000rpm and above, there is a buzz vibration. Not sure what the cause is as the throttle body vanes are good and open so that rules out an induction imbalance. It does feel smoother all round and so I wonder if it caused by a unbalanced crank, conrods, piston, flywheel and clutch pack. The vibration isn't concerning me at all and I am not putting the $ in to balancing the dynamic components.
I found that in a straight line it is quite comfortable, not too much weight on my hands, but I definitely do notice a different leg position. Funnily enough, on longer rides, eventually my legs seem to get cramped and I will let them hang for a bit. This feeling of cramp takes longer on the 11S and when I did let my legs hang, my feet are much closer to the bitumen! It’s all a bit lower.
Ok, but how does it compare around town?
Well, it doesn’t steer, it doesn’t turn, it has no steering lock, it doesn’t go up kerbs to well, it’s not a GS! Sure it’s not designed and intended for that, but after 12 years of a GS, it is taking a bit to get used to.
The suspension is quite good though, quite comparable to my GS and so not so harsh at all.
My trip from Brisbane home was pretty much a straight line, I think about 5 roundabouts, 4 of which I went straight on. I did it to work on Friday and around town on some business afterwards. That is where I started to have to learn how to ride it.
This afternoon I went for a ride up the coastal road from Cairns north. This has twisty sections and a few hills. I had already worked out that the wider bars and increased height on the GS make turning much easier, gives me much more confidence on roundabouts and turning off at T junctions and so I would need to be conscious of this and REALLY be calm about this.
I headed off and rolled up the road. It is an easy gotcha for the cops and so the chance of getting caught speeding is high. Speed wasn’t the purpose of the ride though, near on anybody can fast in a straight line, it’s the corners where it matters. I rolled around the first few kilometres and it was ok. I know the road fairly well and there are some closing corners to be aware off so I was ready for those.
I found that I was looking further ahead thru the corner, more so than usual (maybe where I should always be looking?) and consciously counter steering more.
I was definitely more cautious on my ride today, knowing that it is a different handling machine.
I did go up a hill, quite steep to a look out over 4mile beach. Not really any different to report there, pulled well just like my GS going up, just the same going down.
So, what is there to report about the differences?
After all the above, you know what it comes down to?
Obviously different seating position, No fuel gauge, no eng oil temp gauge, no gear indicator. Lack of steering and turning and turning circle, Its quicker up to speed and that is about it.
Yep, liking it so far.
Been riding an 1150GS since April 2005 and have no recoolection of riding anything else since. I did sit on an Royal Enfield thing at a trade stand at Phillip Island last year, but that is all.
I picked up my 1100S a week ago and first ride was about 100km / 60miles to friends in Brisbane. On the Monday and Tuesday I rode home to FNQ, Far North Queensland. You can read about it here if you like.
viewtopic.php?f=17&p=188401#p188401
The riding position is quite different. As expected I suppose considering that these two are at quite opposite ends of the spectrum. One is a long-range tourer good for off road to an extent. The other is BMW’s take on a sports bike. It will be ok on some dirt roads, but not for long!
I would say to my uncalibrated eye and feeling, it is about 20% faster than my GS, though the GS does need a good service. Where does this extra oomph come from?
Overall the 11S is more slippery, less frontal drag than the GS. I believe that mine has the standard gearbox for the 11S and I know my GS does. Gears 1 thru 5 are the same but the final drive is different, 31:11 for the GS and 33:12 for the 11S. This certainly gives it more get up go. 6th gear is different and so this gives it a higher top speed, not that I have been there officer.
Approaching 4000rpm and above, there is a buzz vibration. Not sure what the cause is as the throttle body vanes are good and open so that rules out an induction imbalance. It does feel smoother all round and so I wonder if it caused by a unbalanced crank, conrods, piston, flywheel and clutch pack. The vibration isn't concerning me at all and I am not putting the $ in to balancing the dynamic components.
I found that in a straight line it is quite comfortable, not too much weight on my hands, but I definitely do notice a different leg position. Funnily enough, on longer rides, eventually my legs seem to get cramped and I will let them hang for a bit. This feeling of cramp takes longer on the 11S and when I did let my legs hang, my feet are much closer to the bitumen! It’s all a bit lower.
Ok, but how does it compare around town?
Well, it doesn’t steer, it doesn’t turn, it has no steering lock, it doesn’t go up kerbs to well, it’s not a GS! Sure it’s not designed and intended for that, but after 12 years of a GS, it is taking a bit to get used to.
The suspension is quite good though, quite comparable to my GS and so not so harsh at all.
My trip from Brisbane home was pretty much a straight line, I think about 5 roundabouts, 4 of which I went straight on. I did it to work on Friday and around town on some business afterwards. That is where I started to have to learn how to ride it.
This afternoon I went for a ride up the coastal road from Cairns north. This has twisty sections and a few hills. I had already worked out that the wider bars and increased height on the GS make turning much easier, gives me much more confidence on roundabouts and turning off at T junctions and so I would need to be conscious of this and REALLY be calm about this.
I headed off and rolled up the road. It is an easy gotcha for the cops and so the chance of getting caught speeding is high. Speed wasn’t the purpose of the ride though, near on anybody can fast in a straight line, it’s the corners where it matters. I rolled around the first few kilometres and it was ok. I know the road fairly well and there are some closing corners to be aware off so I was ready for those.
I found that I was looking further ahead thru the corner, more so than usual (maybe where I should always be looking?) and consciously counter steering more.
I was definitely more cautious on my ride today, knowing that it is a different handling machine.
I did go up a hill, quite steep to a look out over 4mile beach. Not really any different to report there, pulled well just like my GS going up, just the same going down.
So, what is there to report about the differences?
After all the above, you know what it comes down to?
Obviously different seating position, No fuel gauge, no eng oil temp gauge, no gear indicator. Lack of steering and turning and turning circle, Its quicker up to speed and that is about it.
Yep, liking it so far.