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Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:18 am
by Grip Fast
Interesting list of contacts and charges to receive a ULEZ Certificate of Conformity. Some manufacturers will issue them for free, others charge (BMW £120).

I'm not planning on riding into London, ever, so not affected, but for those who have to, it must be a worry.

https://wiki.mag-uk.org/images/f/fd/How ... mption.pdf

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:02 pm
by Boxermed69
I needed a C of C when I imported my bike from Ireland a few years ago. Phoned BMW UK expecting a right old palaver and for it to cost a 3 figure sum. They took the VIN over the phone and sent me one FOC. Didn't even charge me postage. Result! :thumbright:

Mike

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:32 pm
by Grip Fast
Boxermed69 wrote:I needed a C of C when I imported my bike from Ireland a few years ago. Phoned BMW UK expecting a right old palaver and for it to cost a 3 figure sum. They took the VIN over the phone and sent me one FOC. Didn't even charge me postage. Result! :thumbright:

Mike


Perhaps the good folks at BMW UK don't like MAG so fed them a line. Good result for you though, Mike.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:34 pm
by Al
Been posts on ukgser about the ulez and BMW took a couple of months and £130 to supply Certs.

Al.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:58 pm
by Boxermed69
I suspect such requests weren't great in number 4 or 5 years ago. Since this ULEZ business surfaced I'd imagine they've been getting stacks. There will of course be a cost involved in processing this lot, but I suspect BMW also quickly spotted a new potential revenue stream and swiftly added a zero. No doubt most of the other manufacturers are at it too.

It is my understanding that, when someone takes delivery of their spanking new bike, the C of C should be within the wodge of paperwork it comes with. I'm also led to believe that this often isn't the case. I received the C of C for my Ford car without having to ask for it - though didn't for the BMW MINI I had before. If and when I'm in a position to buy a new bike I think I will insist on having the certificate.

Mike

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 11:31 am
by Pete.
Does the R1100s meet ulez criteria for an exemption? I don't mind forking out for an exemption but I do t want to spend £120 to find it's non-compliant.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:18 pm
by popsky
Pete. wrote:Does the R1100s meet ulez criteria for an exemption? I don't mind forking out for an exemption but I do t want to spend £120 to find it's non-compliant.


You could turn inputting your Reg number to see

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... ecker-ulez

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:21 am
by Pete.
popsky wrote:
Pete. wrote:Does the R1100s meet ulez criteria for an exemption? I don't mind forking out for an exemption but I do t want to spend £120 to find it's non-compliant.


You could turn inputting your Reg number to see

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... ecker-ulez


If my bike checked out OK on there I'd have no need for a certificate.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:51 am
by popsky
I would have thought that to be the case

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:05 pm
by SP250
Just put my R1100S into the ULEZ finder (a 2001 model) and it failed - ie I would have to pay the charge as well as the congestion charge.
My F800ST (2009 model) and my Saab 95 Aero (2003 model) both pass without having to pay the ULEZ charge. Still have to pay the congestion charges though.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:18 pm
by The Teutonic Tangerine
SP250 wrote:Just put my R1100S into the ULEZ finder (a 2001 model) and it failed - ie I would have to pay the charge as well as the congestion charge.
My F800ST (2009 model) and my Saab 95 Aero (2003 model) both pass without having to pay the ULEZ charge. Still have to pay the congestion charges though.


I assume you mean congestion charge for the Saab not the bike as motorcycles are exempt.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:51 pm
by Pete.
Anyway....does anyone actually have a meaningful answer? Should the standard R1100S (2-spark, 2004 model) have emissions that comply with the LEZ?

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:19 pm
by popsky
Pete. wrote:Anyway....does anyone actually have a meaningful answer? Should the standard R1100S (2-spark, 2004 model) have emissions that comply with the LEZ?


No

If you input the Reg number from a 2005 R1100s it is subject to the ULEZ, the LEZ on the other hand does not apply to motorcycles

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:48 pm
by Pete.
The checker won't help, it's a pre-2007 bike so it just gives it the 'computer says no'. Since the mayor has said that pre 2007 bikes might be exempt if they prove to comply with the specified limits, that's what I'm asking - is it likely that it does? The emissions field on my v5c is blank so that's no help.

Re: Certificate of Conformity Charges

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:18 am
by popsky
My 12s is registered in 07 but it’s a 06 build and that passes the ULEZ online checker, now I found this snippet of info which may help you

R1200s
https://bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1200_s_2006.php

R1100s 2005
https://bikez.com/motorcycles/bmw_r_1100_s_2005.php

If you scroll down a little way you’ll see the stated CO 2 emissions are the same, but there’s still no guarantee that BMW’s conformity will be what you want but maybe worth a go.