brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

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brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:11 pm

I've managed to (hopefully) put and end to the brake rattle I had coming from the front of my R1100s.
On both sides, the pads had zero copper slip :(
one of the locating pins between the inner and outer pad was solid and needed real force to knock it out - it didn't have it's little retaining clip in either :roll: also, see pic - it was not in a good state.

Anyway, new pins from BMW, new bobbins and wavy washers from Motorworks, and new stainless disc bolts from the internet, and it seems squeak and rattle-free!!!
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby Blackal » Wed Feb 27, 2019 9:21 pm

You need to start a moisturising regime....................... :?

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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:03 pm

Blackal wrote:You need to start a moisturising regime....................... :?

(said Boxerscott)

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copper slip seems to be doing alright....
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby boxerscott » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:36 pm

fatroy wrote:
Blackal wrote:You need to start a moisturising regime....................... :?

(said Boxerscott)

Al :thumbup:


copper slip seems to be doing alright....
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:11 pm

UPDATE>>>

It still rattles

pretty sure it's the pads - npping one with pliers and moving it backwards and forwards i reckon its THE sound.
I'm looking carefully at pics of different ones and notice some have springy things by the pin hole...

any one have springs on their Brembos or care to chip in with a pic of yr caliper??

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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby nab 301 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:26 pm

Afaik only the OE pads have that spring , so I guess either live with it or fit OE pads . I have different retro fitted 2 pin brembo calipers on my bike ( without an anti rattle plate and they rattle nicely ! I have a similar caliper on the front of my Guzzi which has an anti rattle plate fitted but it still makes some weird noises.

Have a look at the parts list on this site and you'll see the spring fitted to the pad. Edit , looking at the original photo at the start of this thread , that spring appears to be fitted ?
https://shop.maxbmw.com/fiche/DiagramsM ... in=ZA83456
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:18 pm

thanks for the reply!

yeah, i was thinking about looking at OE pads...

What you see in my first pix is not really a spring, it's an L shaped locking clip thing that can rotate slightly with the locator pin (11).
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Looking further on the internet, it seems pads like the ones below have some sort of spring around their locator hole...
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I think I need to have another chat with Motorworks :)
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby nab 301 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:07 pm

That's the sort of pad you need .
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:18 pm

nab 301 wrote:That's the sort of pad you need .


great, cheers - will get a set ASAP!
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby SP250 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:25 pm

If the pads work ok, just get some decent ear plugs ..............................
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:49 am

it looks like they'll need replacing soon enough anyway...
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby simon » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:58 pm

... stainless disc bolts from the internet ...

I would steer clear of these (unless absolutely sure).. the previous owner had put some in and while they looked alright it was PITA getting them out.. like cheese and even with heat just stripped... I got a Dremel onto them to square the heads off then heat + mole-grips.
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:31 pm

simon wrote:
... stainless disc bolts from the internet ...

I would steer clear of these (unless absolutely sure).. the previous owner had put some in and while they looked alright it was PITA getting them out.. like cheese and even with heat just stripped... I got a Dremel onto them to square the heads off then heat + mole-grips.
Standard blots for me..


Ah, cheers for the pointer with these!
they do seem fine and better quality than what was already holding the disc on - they were more cheese-like and I was V worried removing them, so they went straight in the bin.
These replacements have been undone/removed on one side the other day when I thought I'd try rotating the disc one bolt hole to see if it'd stop the rattle - solid heads, came out easy, went back in easy, torqued-up easy and no worries re their cheesyness!
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Re: brake rattle & squeak... fixed, I think

Postby fatroy » Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:59 pm

UPDATE!

I got some replacement pads with those little springy wire bits and have just finished fitting - took for a tootle around and about...
no rattle!

Thanks for your help and suggestions, on to the next thing now...
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