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Starter solenoid

Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:18 am
by Mr Charrington
Hallo everybody
Im having starter problems on my 2002 R11S and im looking for a starter solenoid
Here in Greece i cant find any spare Valeo solenoid either any chineese one.
The only options that ihave is to buy the whole starter origial Valeo for 250euro or chineese for about a 100 euros

Does anyone knows if the starter solenoid on the R11S
is compatible with any other cars starter or where can i find one ?
Thank you

Re: Starter solenoid

Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:17 pm
by nab 301
No experience of repairing them myself but assuming it is the D6RA75 starter the solenoid part number is listed on this website http://www.largiader.com/tech/valeo/

as
12 41 1 244 607
Plenty of threads on UK Gser if you search with the starter motor model above

Citroen cars mentioned in this thread below but a local auto electrical repair shop would probably be your best bet
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread ... ght=d6ra75

Re: Starter solenoid

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:11 am
by Mr Charrington
Thank you for the info . :lol:

I had forgot the largiader site my bad !
On Monday i will get my hands on this one

https://www.starteg.gr/προϊόν/μπουτόν-μ ... ζμ491cargo

for ...18 euros

Its a chinesee copy
company name Cargo code no is 132976

You have it in UK also

https://hc-cargo.co.uk/catalog/p/132976--solenoid

I will be back with the results .

Re: Starter solenoid

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:47 am
by Mr Charrington
Plug and play as  expected !

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The new solenoid comes with a new spring and a new actuation cylinder



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It  has the same dimensions and the same weight like the oem from  valeo .

The only difference that i can see
is that the  Valeo actuation cylinder  has a layer of copper on it
and the chinesse one is made of white metall


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You can see the deterioration on it and the white metall underneath.
The spring also needed replacement as it had lost  more than the 1/3 of its length .


While waiting for the spares i desided to dismantle the starter completely so i can lube and clean inside of it

Believe me it is very easy to do so !

Here is a video of the prosedure.


https://youtu.be/S6mo_8nzni0



Note that i did not remouved  the  front circlip
infront of the engaging gear  .

There is no need to do so unless you want to change the bearing .

You can have accesss to the panetary gear system  with the circlip in place .

I remouved only the circlip that holdes the rotor in place so i could inspect  and clean it .

The diference on how the starter works and hears is huge !

Now if you are reading this and you are not sure
if the problem is your solenoid or is something else
here is a nice video that worked for me .

https://youtu.be/n-RzcsdFoRQ



Now if  you are reading this and you have not any  starting problem
and your bike is running just fine ......
just watch the following video and start to move your body . :blackeye:

https://youtu.be/9ECapWr186g